Amway Employee Describes IBO as a Fool for Buying Crap!

I was lucky enough to have the 'Amway Tooth Fairy' pay a visit to one of my blog posts. Not only did they visit, they left a dime under my pillow--in the way of a comment defending Amway's honor--as if such a thing could really exist?

A short explanation is necessary, so please follow along carefully as I will paint you a picture of Amway deceit and describe how an 'anonymous' individual behind computer IP address 167.23.0.93 left a comment under my Amway/How It Works/Marge's Story Post. If you haven't read about Marge's plight, take a short detour by clicking here. Many other regular readers--who are already familiar with my Marge's Story--will recall that Marge sent me a communication that told a horrific tale of how her finances were ruined by her Amway 'distributor' husband who played a game of deceit, not only on himself, but on Marge as well, running up $16,000 of debt ridden expense in four years of pursuing a Quixtar Land of Will inspired dream. (Not necessarily an uncommon theme amongst dream inspired devotees.)

Now, this is where the Alticor tooth fairy comes to my blog leaving a comment under the alias of 'anonymous' under Marge's Story post. The comment came in early in the day and my Google talk widgett immediately notified me that someone had left a comment on Marge's Story; as soon as I saw the content of the comment I immediately signed into my stat counter page and discovered that the commenter's message was sent from an Alticor computer IP address 167.23.0.93 with this ISP Path Out69s.datetelecomm.net (Alticor Inc) Ada, Michigan. Now that you know that the tooth fairy was without a doubt an Amway employee at the Ada, Michigan Headquarters, read the comment that follows. (Notice that who ever this person was, they have a very noticeable problem with capitalization.)

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Amway/How It Works/Marge's Story":

sad story, but how is this amway's fault? poor decisions + low motivation + credit card + some bad advice sprinkled in does not equal a problem with the company or even the concept.

this could happen to anyone in any business, or hobby for that matter...money can be blown on lots of useless things.

amway doesn't require that owners buy any of that crap, and after $16k if this person is not wise enough to know that they have a problem then it was a matter of time before a "fool and his money are soon separated".

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I had already informed readers about this comment on the Amway Soap Box Blog under Amway – Quixtar: Where Criminal Intent to Defraud Becomes “Caveat Emperor” to Alticor Employee! which I also urge you to read.

I want to bring to your attention the word 'crap' that I overlooked the first time I read Alticor's response. I already described how this mysterious person while working at an Alticor computer attempted to pose as any anonymous commenter to deflect blame away from Amway for Marge's horrific experience in a AmQuix household.

This tooth fairy had the nerve to call all the Amway 'stuff' that Marge's husband bought "CRAP": Wow, take a breath; what a revelation! Not something you ever thought you'd see being transmitted from an Alticor company keyboard at pyramid scheme headquarters?

What did this Quixtar "fool" squander his money on? Tools and functions; Overpriced products; and all the mostly disregarded overhead expenses.

Obviously Marge's husband was doing only what he was told to do, first by the upline and secondly by all the mind numbing audio tapes, CDs and books promoted by the motivation business ran by the greedy tool promoters, known as kingpins.

To now add insult to injury, this faceless Alticor person calls Marge's husband a fool for buying all the Amway crap. It seems to me, that if Alticor knows all the stuff that their distributors buy is crap, aren't they truly guilty of intentionally defrauding their own 'distributors'?

Amway, headquarter in Ada, Michigan, head up a pernicious World wide cult which is is overseen by greedy tool promoters who operate their secondary scam on the backs the believers of the Amway Myth. In the light of Marge's victimization, the home office is disavowing any responsibility in the matter, placing the blame for buying all the 'crap' on the victim's husband and in a sort of ironic way passing the blame onto the tool scamming kingpins for enticing their downlines to consume this crap as if it were more important than breathing oxygen, putting food on the table, or making the mortgage payment.

Dear Anonymous Alticor Tooth Fairy, thank you for leaving your dime under my pillow. Amway product and tools are indeed crap; thanks for confirming what I already knew. I can sleep peacefully now, knowing that even Amway thinks their products and tools are crap! I had already proven that to my own satisfaction because those training materials that the kingpin distributors sell for 'top dollar' to their downlines, only sell for pennies on the dollar on eBay--that is if they even get a bid at all. Tex-the used tool lord--can't possibly afford to buy them all even at their penny a pound price; therefore, lack of demand drives their yard sale-like price. EBay tool sellers most likely make more off of their shipping charges than from the product being auctioned. If for chance anyone happens to take a look see at the eBay offerings in the Amway/Quixtar category, you will also discover that Amway/Quixtar products are also being offered up at the same yard sale cut-throat prices as well. Makes me wonder why Amway believers are willing to take such a 'bath' on these supposedly wonderful--supposedly high quality--badly overpriced products? I guess the sellers probably discovered the products and tools really are CRAP exactly as the Amway tooth fairy describes them.

When the dream dies, the appetite for Amway craps dies along with the dream. Word Up! - quixtarisacult

Amway/Quixtar: Opportunity to Flush Your Money Down their Loo !

Here is how multi-level marketing works in the direct selling industry. Almost all businesses operate off of some variation of the Amway system. Regardless of the hype recruitment people try to make recruits believe about their opportunities; these supposed opportunities almost always work out the same way for people foolish enough to believe the claims which are complete Du Du.

What follows is a description of how direct selling schemes really work out for people foolish or desperate enough to believe in them. The money that is supposed to come your way after striving and struggling in a MLM pursuit is always at the end of the rainbow where the little green suited Leprechaun plays a shell game with the MLM Pot O' Gold and even if you were lucky to locate the end of the rainbow you are only left so much further behind the eight ball.

Recruitment made during periods of recession, where many people have lost traditional jobs, seek to attract desperate people into their direct selling schemes like Amway, MonaVie, Usana, Herbalife and many others. Recruits will be asked to squander what resources they do have buying what most people would consider unnecessary overpriced products or services. You will be encouraged to do three things with an emphasis being placed on the first two:

(1) buy products
(2) buy training (to include attendance at meetings, rallies, and seminars)
(3) sell products

All three require you to send your money to the company with the third hopefully allowing you to retain a margin between your price and the retail price.

Buying MLM overpriced services or crap when you are operating on emergency unemployment funds makes little sense. Providing a company with overhead expenses to promote their profits makes no sense at any time. Even if you manage to recruit or sell a few bottles of "Dr Du Du", you still do not come out on top after figuring in your overhead costs which you must provide out of pocket.

Expenses, considered overhead include the following:

(a) transportation
(b) use of your facilities, phone
(c) time
(d) accommodations
(e) applicable taxes

One of the biggest scams in almost every MLM proposal is that you are convinced that you own their business. Please, don't swallow that camel! They own the business contractually speaking. You send them money for (1) and (2) and then you may also send them the majority of the money you receive selling a few bottles of Dr. Du Du (or whatever product or services your company offers) while you get to retain the marginal difference between your price and the retail price: the gross profit. I've noticed many distributors sell the product at their cost and make zero margin which makes the pursuit a sham business.

You become the “mark” that is supposed to sell the company's products, which, by design, are so priced as to make this very difficult, if nearly impossible. Even if you are persistent and succeed to sell a few bottles of the Dr. Du Du, then the margin between your price and the retail price will provide you with what your company attempts to make you believe is your profit, which in reality isn't unless you manage to sell enough to overcome your own costs; the overhead I described above.

It shouldn't be any surprise that your real profits from selling a few bottles of Dr. Du Du will most likely only offset a substantial loss in the end, especially if your time is factored in correctly as a monetary amount; after all your time is worth something isn't it? And even if you do not use “universally accepted accounting principles” and provide your time as "gratis", most likely the bottom line will still result in a significant loss. Most distributors will never actually be able to sell enough Du Du to realize a profit even where their time is considered free, which really is an impossibility.

You therefore find yourself flushing number (1) and (2) down your MLM loo which is what these sham MLM businesses are designed for you to do! You end up with the crap and they end up with your cash!

Amway Global Cult Followers Taught To Act Like Unwise Monkeys and Reject “Evil” Truths About Their Amway Opportunity!

The above picture was taken from a scene in the Planet of the Apes movie know as “The Simeon Court.” The “See No Evil, Hear No Evil, and Speak No Evil” was actually done as a gag during the filming of the movie and was left in during the final cut. Another picture of the “Wise Monkeys” has been in the right side bar since I started this blog. It is representative of what Amway Global distributors (IBOs) are taught by their upline and the tool propaganda they expose themselves to on a regular basis.

1. SEE NO EVIL.

Distributors are taught to put blinders on, to not see anything that goes counter to the dream inspired opportunity they have been instructed to believe in by their Amway recruiter. Many people might recall the disreputable Quixtar recruiter Greg Fredericks on secret camera in the 2004 Dateline news expose on Quixtar corruption where he instructs his new recruits (one of which is a Dateline undercover reporter) with the following classic example of what this “see no evil” cult instruction is all about: “So I don't put anything into my head that's going to cause me to be thinking outside my positive role.” The Dateline story goes on to explain that this means “no TV, no reading newspapers” and by way of extrapolation I add: no Internet, and especially no critical blogs like Quixtar Cult Intervention, Pyramid Scheme Alert, or Quixtar The Dream or the Scheme.

2. HEAR NO EVIL.

Distributors are taught to turn a deaf ear to family, friends, co-workers or anyone who upon hearing about Quixtar/Amway say things like “scam, pyramid scheme, rip-off” and similar discouraging opinions. Indeed, distributors are encouraged to shun further contact with people expressing negative opinions of Amway and the opportunity. Tool Kingpin Dexter Yager has told people that the only friends you should keep are other people in the Amway business. Listen to Dexter describing this by clicking here. Obviously if you are no longer friends with the critics of your business you will not be hearing the evil they describe it as representing. Believers are basically taught to forsake all who do not join the business to include family. Isn't this very cult like? Alienate devotees from outside negative influences altogether? These upline weasels are very Jim Jones-like in their desire to isolate you away from criticism of their con job on you.

3. SPEAK NO EVIL.

If there is a Ten Commandments-like law in Amway, it would be that the “Upline is always right” and therefore they do not want to hear anything negative from the Downline. This would be tantamount to treason! Eric Scheibler, former Amway Emerald, in his book Merchants of Deception describes how almost all his questions and problems with the business were blunted by this law whereby he couldn't complain to his Upline. Anyone complaining about not having the money to attend some far off function couldn't communicate this “negative” situation without being severely reprimanded and scolded. Another way of understanding how “Speak No Evil” works is to look at the Amway Glossary of Terms under the word “Edify” which says: “Normally used to describe the act of respecting or "talking good" about another person, this is taken to extremes in the Amway business. Distributors are taught to NEVER be disrespectful or SAY anything bad about their upline, no matter the subject or the distributor's feelings.”

Dear Readers, I must ask you, have you been taught this “wise monkeys” behavior by your upline mentors in their desire to subvert you into their cult kowtowing of tool kingpins (like Ron Puryear, Greg Duncan, and Dexter Yager) and Amway Company con men (like Doug Devos and Steve Van Andel who are listed at position number 3 in the top 5 Scam Artists by the Vue Weekly). The “wise monkeys” are wise because they refuse to listen to evil. Amway cultists have basically made you the monkey by convincing you to believe that the truth of this bad Amway affair is evil and instructing you to “See no evil, speak no evil, talk no evil” about “the business”. You, my friend, have been hoodwinked and made a sucker by these deceptive con men who head up the motivational organizations which has “absorbed” you into their BUSINESS CULT! You can do the right thing and spurn these lying suitors if you are involved with them. If you have been prospected by these merchants of deception, and have come to Amway Global Cult Intervention investigating the opportunity someone is trying to convince you to get involved in, NOW YOU KNOW what kind of people these recruiters are. Do like they used to say in the Taco Bell commercials: Run for the Border! Remember the Monkeys were wise because they refused evil; they did not refuse to SEE, HEAR or SPEAK Evil about Quixtar/Amway!