Showing posts with label IBOs deceived. Show all posts
Showing posts with label IBOs deceived. Show all posts

Saturday, November 22, 2008

Amway Employee Describes IBO as a Fool for Buying Crap!


I was lucky enough to have the 'Amway Tooth Fairy' pay a visit to one of my blog posts. Not only did they visit, they left a dime under my pillow--in the way of a comment defending Amway's honor--as if such a thing could really exist?

A short explanation is necessary, so please follow along carefully as I will paint you a picture of Amway deceit and describe how an 'anonymous' individual behind computer IP address 167.23.0.93 left a comment under my Amway/How It Works/Marge's Story Post. If you haven't read about Marge's plight, take a short detour by clicking here. Many other regular readers--who are already familiar with my Marge's Story--will recall that Marge sent me a communication that told a horrific tale of how her finances were ruined by her Amway 'distributor' husband who played a game of deceit, not only on himself, but on Marge as well, running up $16,000 of debt ridden expense in four years of pursuing a Quixtar Land of Will inspired dream. (Not necessarily an uncommon theme amongst dream inspired devotees.)

Now, this is where the Alticor tooth fairy comes to my blog leaving a comment under the alias of 'anonymous' under Marge's Story post. The comment came in early in the day and my Google talk widgett immediately notified me that someone had left a comment on Marge's Story; as soon as I saw the content of the comment I immediately signed into my stat counter page and discovered that the commenter's message was sent from an Alticor computer IP address 167.23.0.93 with this ISP Path Out69s.datetelecomm.net (Alticor Inc) Ada, Michigan. Now that you know that the tooth fairy was without a doubt an Amway employee at the Ada, Michigan Headquarters, read the comment that follows. (Notice that who ever this person was, they have a very noticeable problem with capitalization.)

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Amway/How It Works/Marge's Story":

sad story, but how is this amway's fault? poor decisions + low motivation + credit card + some bad advice sprinkled in does not equal a problem with the company or even the concept.

this could happen to anyone in any business, or hobby for that matter...money can be blown on lots of useless things.

amway doesn't require that owners buy any of that crap, and after $16k if this person is not wise enough to know that they have a problem then it was a matter of time before a "fool and his money are soon separated".

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I had already informed readers about this comment on the Amway Soap Box Blog under Amway – Quixtar: Where Criminal Intent to Defraud Becomes “Caveat Emperor” to Alticor Employee! which I also urge you to read.

I want to bring to your attention the word 'crap' that I overlooked the first time I read Alticor's response. I already described how this mysterious person while working at an Alticor computer attempted to pose as any anonymous commenter to deflect blame away from Amway for Marge's horrific experience in a AmQuix household.

This tooth fairy had the nerve to call all the Amway 'stuff' that Marge's husband bought "CRAP": Wow, take a breath; what a revelation! Not something you ever thought you'd see being transmitted from an Alticor company keyboard at pyramid scheme headquarters?

What did this Quixtar "fool" squander his money on? Tools and functions; Overpriced products; and all the mostly disregarded overhead expenses.

Obviously Marge's husband was doing only what he was told to do, first by the upline and secondly by all the mind numbing audio tapes, CDs and books promoted by the motivation business ran by the greedy tool promoters, known as kingpins.


To now add insult to injury, this faceless Alticor person calls Marge's husband a fool for buying all the Amway crap. It seems to me, that if Alticor knows all the stuff that their distributors buy is crap, aren't they truly guilty of intentionally defrauding their own 'distributors'?

Amway, headquarter in Ada, Michigan, head up a pernicious World wide cult which is is overseen by greedy tool promoters who operate their secondary scam on the backs the believers of the Amway Myth. In the light of Marge's victimization, the home office is disavowing any responsibility in the matter, placing the blame for buying all the 'crap' on the victim's husband and in a sort of ironic way passing the blame onto the tool scamming kingpins for enticing their downlines to consume this crap as if it were more important than breathing oxygen, putting food on the table, or making the mortgage payment.

Dear Anonymous Alticor Tooth Fairy, thank you for leaving your dime under my pillow. Amway product and tools are indeed crap; thanks for confirming what I already knew. I can sleep peacefully now, knowing that even Amway thinks their products and tools are crap! I had already proven that to my own satisfaction because those training materials that the kingpin distributors sell for 'top dollar' to their downlines, only sell for pennies on the dollar on eBay--that is if they even get a bid at all. Tex-the used tool lord--can't possibly afford to buy them all even at their penny a pound price; therefore, lack of demand drives their yard sale-like price. EBay tool sellers most likely make more off of their shipping charges than from the product being auctioned. If for chance anyone happens to take a look see at the eBay offerings in the Amway/Quixtar category, you will also discover that Amway/Quixtar products are also being offered up at the same yard sale cut-throat prices as well. Makes me wonder why Amway believers are willing to take such a 'bath' on these supposedly wonderful--supposedly high quality--badly overpriced products? I guess the sellers probably discovered the products and tools really are CRAP exactly as the Amway tooth fairy describes them.

When the dream dies, the appetite for Amway craps dies along with the dream. Word Up! - quixtarisacult


Tuesday, August 26, 2008

What Quixtar IBOs Need To Know About The IBOAI: Kingpin Distributors Looking Out For Their Own Greed Inspired Best Interests!


In past posts on this blog I have described Quixtar/Amway Global as being made up of three distinct groups of people. First, the company; second the kingpin distributors; and third everyone else (meaning you: the rank and file IBOs). The IBOAI is basically made up of successful :”top of the pyramid” kingpin distributors. They sit on a board which is elected by Emerald and above pin level IBOs to supposedly represent Independent Business Owners everywhere. These people love to describe themselves as IBOs but are actually made up of tool kingpins and for which an IBO commentator on this blog, Tex, has described as “Lying, Cowardly, Kingpins.” These wealthy distributors make up part of the group of distributors earning the lion's share of commissions generated in the Quixtar/Amway product based pyramid scheme. These self righteous distributors of the “tools for fools” rake in millions of dollars in profits promoting Quixtar propaganda to keep the later group buying the unremarkable, overpriced products, and most importantly, buying the training materials and function tickets. Many times it is their wealth, pictured as giant mansions, which inspire the newly recruited distributors to “pay the cost to be the boss.” The cost they pay is many times very high, making tool scamming and product based pyramid scheming very lucrative for them and the company. These distributors distribute more than tools and products. They serve their own greedy self interests while attempting to make the little fellow IBO believe that his/her interests are being protected.

A fellow blogger and former IBO, Amthrax, has recently described a situation on his blog involving one of these IBOAI kingpins, Greg Duncan, and the hypocrisy of the IBOAI to claim that Greg's “All In” energy drink does not compete with IBOs attempting to market XS, Quixtar's offering. Even industry "pundit of deceit" “Insider” IBOFightback sees through the hypocrisy and insane logic of this situation and the spin the IBOAI has put on the issue by their recent blog post titled “Rumor About Greg Duncan and All In Energy Drink”. The IBOAI blog defends beverage baron, Duncan, who is heavily invested in XS and claims that his interests in All In Energy do not violate any of the non-compete agreements every IBO signs with Quixtar as if these two products are not in competition with one another? Greg invests profits from XS sales into producing All In Energy Drink, and he and the IBOAI self righteously claim these products do not compete against one another? Actually these products do not compete against one another because of the self consumption model AmQuix operates, but of course this is something they will not openly admit.

Amway claims to market XS drinks to retail customers, but only a small percentage of these XS drinks ever reach a non-distributor customer. Retail sales to non-distributors are dismally small by percentage of total sales having been described recently as being 4.3%. That means IBOs buy the XS drinks almost exclusively making XS a monopoly product which does not in reality compete against the likes of Red Bull or All In or any of the other products picture above. The IBOAI must believe that “real world” customers are fair game for this “non-competing” product All In Energy Drink while not actually admitting the circumstances I am describing now.

Something really stinks in the “Land of Will!” These greedy kingpin distributors want to eat their cake and have it too! These weasels have painted themselves into a corner where there is no rat hole for them to escape. They believe they can make down line dupes believe their spin regardless how obvious their treachery is. The truth is, these folks many times take their Quixtar – Amway Global Profits and in the spirit of free enterprise invest them in other products and services. Do any of these investments violate the non-compete agreements they have made with Alticor? If the hype Quixtar makes about their independent business owners retailing their product to real world customers is to be believed, then yes, these All In Energy drinks do compete against XS! Quixtar has painted themselves into a corner also. They should enforce non-compete agreements with kingpin distributors which market similar products to retail customers which they claim to have (but in reality do not). Quixtar makes a big deal about retailing product in hopes to avoid product pyramid scheme allegations while they at the same time enjoy the proceeds from their pyramid!

The IBOAI portray themselves as promoting the interests of all IBOs while they really are protecting their own self interests. This is an obvious conflict of interest where the rank and file IBO distributor dupes are victimized as marks in a tool scam con job and are expected to believe all the lies these same kingpins use to justify their own greed. Isn't the entire system built exclusively around greed? The greed inspired IBOs believe in the wealth these greedy folk hold out as being possible. The company maintains their Jay Factor product pricing system out of greed which is obviously reflected in the outrageous prices duped dreamers are required to pay to play in the game. The IBOAI brag that the XS drink price (which is outrageously high to begin with) has not been raised for many years and claim that the All In Energy sales help make this pricing situation possible. More stupidity from folk who have been hoodwinking down line IBOs forever!