More Dirty Little Secrets of Their Little Quixtar Cult

The wonderful soap selling neighbors you like to laugh about are really a cult. I've tried to tell everyone but no one would listen to me. Dirty Little Secrets of Their Little Quixtar Cult continues with the Tool Kingpin Story of Woe and Greed and continues with a description of the abuse of the down line cult by the tool scam.

Younglings are the tender carrion that the tool kingpin vultures loves to dine on. They are the most coveted carrion by the turkey buzzard vulture and all their minion in the cult as I've described as the baby vultures.

Big Hat tells me that people are scared of cults. I believe that is true but they also need to be more scared of the Vultures at the heart of the cult. Quixtar Cult Intervention is a scary place for people believing in a cult. Big Hat says I should stay away from cult issues because I will have a cult following. Thank you big hat for the information. Now I know what it is like to be Glen Beck?

I guess you might say that the dirty little secrets of their little Quixtar cult are no longer secrets Big Hat? The tool kingpin, Orrin Woodward, formerly Quixtar (same position) has revealed that the dirty little secrets of their little Quixtar cult are true. I didn't say it here first did I? Oh, maybe I did.

Tool Scammers, who needs them? A commenter on my blog said something that was so true and precise, I want to include it here:

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He, and probably you, agree there is a tool scam, but do not:

1. Understand the significance of it

It has cost IBOs sometimes tens of thousands of dollars in expenses for no benefit whatsoever. It has created a tool selling pyramid rather than a product selling pyramid. It convinced IBOs that they could make a profit buying their own products in order to make the PV/BV circles look like they are working. Amway knows this and has moved almost exclusively to marketing products to IBOs - the only consumers of those products. The Amway 'media campaign' is only to protect the name of the company and keep IBOs from jumping ship - it has nothing to do with introducing Amway products to the general population. The AMOs have structured 'training and support' systems so that they are the same as cults. Those people stuck in those AMOs act just like cultists.

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Porkchopjim. I think I've already said this, but you say it very well. You aren't telling any dirty little secrets of their cult, but you sum up what is known very well. You shed light onto what most people might not believe to be a cult, but truly is. People have been believing little by little. There is a poll to the left which asks people if the motivational organizations (ran by the KINGPINS) operate the business cult?. I notice that the early results are in and they look good for the MO s cult!

Orrin Woodward is a shoe in for Tool Kingpin in my second poll! Why I ran the poll is to show the stupidity of some people for believing in these people. These Kingpins are vultures. Wake up you sleepy heads. You can do something about it, stop providing carrion to these TOOL SCAM vultures.

The little secret of the cult people living next door is that they are the real victims in this tale of woe. They are the people holding onto the beliefs. They hold the magic beans. These beans they've paid a precious price for but do not sprout a beanstalk to the giant kingpin's riches.

I've been investigating a story where Quixtar parents were charged with child abuse for leaving their children home alone while they were out showing the plan and wining and dining some prospects.

It is amazing some of the sandcastles these other people are building on other pro-Amway web sites. These people cannot be in their right mind. That is another dirty little secret of their little Quixtar cult: They are all insane. Quixtar sucks, Amway sucks, Woodward sucks, MonaVie sucks, Direct Selling Association sucks, the Better Business Bureau sucks, the FTC sucks, the politicians suck; the list could just keep getting longer.

Big Hat is always ready to reveal a few more secrets, so I'll keep listening for the dirtiest littlest tidbits about their Quixtar cult; you never know what may be revealed next.

Amway Global Cult Intervention serves to enlighten people lost in the darkness of the business cult. Bring understanding to a situation where people have labored under self delusion and are now ready to find help in a dire situation. Cults after all aren't a good thing, and being involved in one is definitely not.

Dirty Little Secrets of Their Little Quixtar Cult

Have you ever had an invite from a friend, associate, or a stranger that left you in the lurch wondering just what the invite was all about? Maybe, just out of the blue, an old acquaintance that you have not seen since high school calls you up and invites you to see something that is so important that you absolutely must do it! Your old friend is very vague about just what this "something" is. Even if you become suspicious and ask if it is "Amway?" Your friend might respond and say something like this: "I can't really talk about it over the phone; you will just have to see this for yourself." Your curiosity has been piqued. You most likely have just been exposed to the "curiosity invite", one of the selling tactics of a multi-level marketer. Amway, one of these MLM companies has been operating under the name of Quixtar in the United States since 1999, but do not let the name change to Amway Global fool you, it is still basically the same old Amway operating nearly the same way it has for almost fifty years.

Many people may have noticed the series of commercials being run by Quixtar announcing their name change to Amway Global. They claim to be the number #1 on line retailer of health and beauty products in the US, although most of their sales are to their own distributors who by percentage make very few retail sales to outside customers which has been reported to be less than 5%. (NOW YOU REALLY KNOW!) Their commercials also seek to rehabilitate the Amway name which had fallen into ill repute by fraud and pyramid scheme allegations of the past. They display the two product lines which they are most proud of Nutrilite Health Products and Artistry Cosmetics. During the transition period the company will operate under both names with the Quixtar name to be eventually phased out all together in favor of the new Amway Global.

Quixtar distributors are called "Independent Business Owners" or IBOs for convenience. These IBOs always are part of a system that includes an "up-line" and a "down-line". These IBOs receive a distributor discounts on the products they buy whether they are sold or consumed by the distributor. The idea is that any product that they retail at full price provides them with a profit and they are also encouraged to use the products themselves. Nothing unusable about this. Buy at a discount and sell for full retail is a universally accepted method of making a little extra money in the business, but as I will describe realizing a profit in this business can be very difficult to achieve. The remainder of this article will describe what can be described as their "little Quixtar cult" and their "dirty little secrets".

Much of what I am going to tell you about "the Business Cult" comes from Tex, a disgruntled Quixtar distributor himself and a modern age cyber-space David who takes on the Amway tool kingpin Goliath by revealing how the kingpins operate their tool scam business. These kingpins run a monopoly business selling motivational training materials to include seminar and rally tickets, and this is commonly called the "tool and function" business. Calling these top distributors tool kingpins is mild compared to the "lying, cowardly kingpins" that Tex calls them during his on-line battle to have these corrupt people thrown out of the business he believes could be a restored to what the founding fathers intended. I will now describe how these kingpin sellers of tools operate and the harm they do to distributors like Tex who are struggling to make an enthusiastic go of the business.

The tool kingpins head up what is commonly known as the "motivational organizations" which have an entire "down-line" of IBO distributors. In this down-line there are any number of supposedly successful IBOs holding titles like "diamond, emerald, and platinum" while the tool kingpins hold an exalted title like "Crown" or "Executive-Crown" and so forth. A similar system exists in many other multi-level marketing companies, which I advise readers to be wary of also.

In Quixtar/Amway these kingpin's trappings of wealth serves as the "bait" for starry eyed distributors who believe they can emulate their success and also become wealthy in the business. Visions of money, palatial estates, and luxury automobiles become possible in the success dream that these kingpin distributors inspire in new recruits who want to become like the successful kingpin distributors they see up on stage at quarterly rallies. These kingpins draw Tex's ire because of the harm they do to down-line distributors out of greed to sell their inventory of motivational materials with little regard that distributors turn a profit.

Tex told me about their "Dirty Little Secret". New distributors are led to believe that success in Quixtar comes from the commissions paid by Quixtar for product purchases made by a distributors and the down-line recruits. The dirty little secret is that these kingpin distributors derive most of their wealth from the multi-million dollar tool and function business, not from Amway/Quixtar commissions or bonuses.

Distributors in the Quixtar business spend most of their time trying to recruit new distributors into the business where an annoying invite to see their plan is routine procedure. They are urged on by the teachings of their training materials and their up-line "mentors". IBOs strive to build a down-line business and new recruits are encouraged to buy the tools and function tickets described as the key to becoming a Quixtar success story. This makes the tool kingpins very happy because they profit handsomely. In times past, distributors were told that the tools were sold at or near cost and that success in the business came from Quixtar not from tool sales. The 2004 Dateline expose on Quixtar corruption pulled their dirty rug out from under the Genie and exposed the dirty little secret of their little Quixtar cult. Although Amway/Quixtar has denied these allegations ever since, the truth has been out in the open and Tex believes that he and his fellow IBOs have been and are continuing to be victimized by the "lying, cowardly kingpins".

Tex says the tool kingpins operate a bait and switch operation where their tool sales benefit by high distributor turn over that the kingpins tool system helps bring about. New distributors will buy tools while veteran distributors need not as many and therefore become less profitable in the eyes of the kingpins. New recruits come into the business wanting to achieve some level of success, and then get driven like cattle into the tool kingpin's "money making machine" and find themselves in a losing catch 22 situation. Like "Simple Simons" they will buy the tool kingpin's wares and attend the seminars and rallies until they eventually become discouraged by high loss, unfulfilled expectations, disillusionment with the dream and eventually quit. Many of these ex-distributors put their accumulated books, cds, videos, and magazines up for sale on ebay hoping to at least get pennies back on the dollar. Many times these materials receive no bids, go unsold and remain relatively worthless! The up-line distributor in anguish must now recruit another enthusiastic face to replace the distributor that quit. Remember, his goal is to retain new distributors who will help him become profitable by buying products. An IBO in search of a new distributor is like a man trying to run up a down escalator: two steps up and one step down; one step up and two steps down! His continued efforts hardly benefits him at all while at the same time it produces a pot of gold for the tool kingpin leprechaun.

There are three distinct groups of people in the Amway/Quixtar business, the company owners, the tool kingpins, and the body of every day distributors like Tex. The first two groups benefit and prosper from the business while the last group of distributors do all the recruiting, buy nearly all the products, and also buy all the training materials to include seminar and rally tickets. This group has less time to spend with their family and many suffer social stigma which can include disappointed family members and the alienation of friends. Children are many times handed off to sitters for care so both parents can work the business together, a common Quixtar strategy. Amafights over the business are common. Distributors many times are asked to make incredible sacrifices to stay in the business, which because of its dependence on mind numbing propaganda, up line oversight, and instructions to ignore the negatives, becomes what I describe as "THE BUSINESS CULT".

Tex urges IBOs to take a stance and contact the Federal Trade Commission and make a complaint. He also urges people to write their state and federal representatives about the tool kingpin corruption. Amway founder, Rich Devos, some years ago condemned the very same corruption that is STILL alive and well in Amway today. Tex, the little David, wants the current Pharaoh at Amway to take the Goliath tool kingpins off of the battle field. Failure to vanquish the tool kingpins will force Tex to call for Amway to be shut down as a pyramid scheme and thereby put an end to the pernicious business cult. Most importantly, if you are presented with a Amway business opportunity, please use your own good common sense and do the right thing. Save yourself some aggravation and avoid the corrupt kingpin sellers of deceit!

Amway Global Cult Intervention serves to provide help and solace to those harmed by Amway/Quixtar and as a beacon in the dark for people lost in the grasp of their little Quixtar cult.

Why Amway Global Cult Intervention? A Comment From A Former IBO: Sandcastles!

Sometimes I feel like a lightning rod. I draw lightning strikes of criticism and many times IBOs, question my motivation for writing this blog. It is because I care so much for people and their loved ones who are harmed by involvement in the Amway/Quixtar business and the cult like devotion many have to motivational organizations and kingpin distributors and the propaganda they distribute as training material. I have my heart in my throat for other people who may be similarly situated as myself since I have someone very dear to me who is in the grasp of the pernicious “business cult.” As the result of my stance on Quixtar/Amway corruption I have been accused of being biased, a fraud, a liar, and even of being someone else other than who I really am. Suffice it to say, I am not a disgruntled ex-distributor trying to bash the Quixtar business but a citizen and friend of people in need.

I generally leave my personal matters out of public view, but where Amway/Quixtar Independent Business Owners are concerned, I don't mind sharing my experiences which are a revealing peek under the hood of how the business cult operates and a factual description of how lives can be ruined by a pernicious cult. Sadly, the nightmare with my loved one is not yet over, and the story cannot be completely told. It is their story, but it is also my story. It is a story that must be told, and has been told, but not everything has been revealed, but soon the time is coming for that. I want to have my loved one home safe with me first. I tell my experiences to IBOs so that maybe some can be reached by my message of hope. Of course many of them do not view it that way. People in the business cult react with anger, which in my opinion can be healthy. A potential intervention comes by seeing and hearing my message and pondering on its ramifications. Thus sums up Amway Global Cult Intervention: It is a place of hope for those who are adversely affected, and a warning to new prospects to stay away from this truly pernicious cult which masquerades as a legitimate business opportunity or direct selling business.

I write this blog because I know other people have been harmed, are being harmed, and will be harmed. I provide information and opinion that brings sensibility to something that at first would seem benign, a supposed part time business that has the potential to destroy one's soul and has the potential to become a nightmarish situation, as it has in my experience. I have developed an eerie fear that my story is one that many IBOs are afraid for me to tell. I have come to understand the fear that Quixtar whistle blower Eric Scheibler must have felt and still feels from people who steadfastly hold onto their precious business as if it were a life or death cause. They so desperately believe in the deceptions that indeed make them the MERCHANTS OF DECEPTION as they have been accurately described. What I have learned about the business cult has given me a voice and a determination to describe the sordid details of the inner workings of “their little Quixtar cult.” The time for the full story is yet to come. Once my loved one is safely home, away from the situation she finds herself in now, all will be openly described.

Today, a commentator to my blog left a comment that describes the power of what Quixtar (Amway Global) Cult Intervention can do in other's lives and gives me a warm sense of being. It is evidence that there is hope for people and their loved ones caught up in something that can become so much more than a benign part time pursuit. An ex-IBO who identifies himself/herself only as “Amthrax” and whom I am sincerely grateful for has left this comment on my post about Quixtar conferences:

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I remember being all fired up at these conferences. Years later, I see the truth behind the smiling faces and motivational stories.

Ever wonder why you write out your checks to Cash or you have to enter your sponsors name, upline Platinum's name, and your upline Diamond's name on your order forms? It's certainly not because they want to create this lovely social graph to see how everyone's related. It's to more effectively redistribute your tool money to right person's pockets.

Sandcastles.

To any IBO planning to go to a rally this year, think about this word when you hear that uplifting story of struggle and triumph. What you're hearing is not the Diamond Dream Story, it's the Diamond Sandcastle Story. When they say that they want to see you on the beaches of the world, they're saying that they want you to be the sand that builds up and replenishes their sandcastles.

That's right, you're just sand to them.

I've been out of the business for many years now, and I've returned to the debate to help someone I know get out. I want to give him the information that I wish I received the day I saw the plan.

I have since learned that in my former AMO, some of the Diamonds have gone back to regular jobs, others are no longer on the speaking circuit, and some have even gotten divorced. That doesn't quite sound like a lifetime will-able, residual income business to me!

QCI and other websites have been extremely helpful, and I want to say thank you for providing these great resources. I hope that in helping my friend make a more informed decision about his future, that I will find some measure of redemption for myself. I wasted two and a half years of my life building someone else's sandcastle.

“Amthrax”

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I ask you IBO, are you building someone else's sandcastle?


Amway Global Cult Intervention indeed is here for people, IBOs, family, friends, pastors, associates, church members, children, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and co-workers, or anyone needing a place to come for help, information, solace, understanding, or advice as it pertains to any pernicious situation, whether it is Quixtar/Amway or another bad MLM situation. I take Intervention seriously, not just for people in the business cult, but for anyone whose life has been altered, changed, affected or harmed. This is not your father's Amway.

Prevention is another area of help that Amway Global Cult Intervention provides. If a family member or good friend is being prospected for a business opportunity which is Amway/Quixtar or any number of other bad MLM opportunities, please share this blog with that person. You could short circuit a truly pernicious cult from taking root and all the negative repercussions from their potential involvement.