Thursday, January 1, 2009

The Black Amway/Quixtar Gift From the Dark Side


A Gift that arrives in the mail with a completely dull black envelope embossed by small silver Ribbon. Have you been a recipient of one of these non-gifts that Amway Global cultists substitute for real presents. These black gifts represent more than just an overpriced product scam, they point out the utter deception the cult members themselves are under. Even their family are relegated to mere PV points on the Amway road to fools gold.

Amway Global/Quixtar Ribbon Gifts are a first class rip off; the accompanying catalog is rife with badly overpriced non-presents--candles and scents and the like. Not generally products one might legitimately live without. Recipients recognize this 'black gift' as evidence that insanity exists somewhere possibly in their own gene pool.

Receivers of THE BLACK GIFT are basically made to feel someohow unclean in the sender's fraudulent affairs and their very corrupt totalitarian regime and World Amway cult.

Beware of the handsomely dressed couple, dressed to the 9's in dress suits to impress and misrepresent. They go out as the 'Conways' perpetrating their scam and themselves as successful, although neither is true. Their 'black gift' attempts to represent Amway as a success which any thinking person knows to be a complete and utter myth. The Conways are perpetrating fraud and are guilty of intent to defraud their fellow villagers. Avoid the Amway criminal Conways! You may not be able to avoid their black gift from the darkside. Word Up!

19 comments:

Joecool said...

But but, if you buy a gift for yourself, you get "paid" to do so. LOL

John said...

It's a gift card. God forbid they get you a gift card from their business... I received a couple of these and I liked what they had. Demonizing people who are working hard to better their life and are providing a service for others is pretty low.

quixtarisacult said...

John...

But their so called 'business' is actually a swindle where 'they' become the victimized in the end.

John said...

I guess you've had a different experience with the business than I have.

quixtarisacult said...

John,

First of all thanks for commenting.

Is it really a business when you basically do all the buying? Not only do you buy the goods, you buy the instructions on how to recruit others who supposedly 'duplicate' your activities. Who really benefits but the top kingpins sellers of tools and Amway who manages to extract much more for their mostly generic products than they are really worth?

You enrich racketeers in a business ran exactly like the mafia. That's all I'm saying. You really don't have to believe me. I'll not pull you out of this scam if you really don't want to leave it. I can only tell you what and with whom you are really involved.

Anonymous said...

John, I agree, that the creator of this blog is a bit glib. He would be much more convincing if he stuck to the facts instead of resorting to mockery. Unfortunately the entire tone of this site will not likely communicate to anyone who does not already agree with him, and I already agree with him.

Now I would like to address the flaw in your own logic. You feel that people "working hard to improve their lives" is to be commended. I would say that people actually improving their lives is to be commended. Carrying bricks from one side of the yard to the other is hard work, but has limited benefits. If your friend is moving a pile of bricks from one side of the yard to the other then back again for 10 years, and he tells you he is building a house, you would question the efficacy of his strategy, even though he was working hard to improve his life.
If you then observed a brick salesmen who made weekly visits and told your friend the reason he had no house is because he needed to buy this week's different color of brick, or get his friends to carry the bricks with him, or get his friends to buy this week's brick color. If the salesman did this while charging your friend 10 times the price the bricks cost at Lowe's or Home Depot, you might develop some animosity against that salesperson. You also might develop some animosity toward your friend because you care about him and want him to have the house, and instead he is letting someone else profit from his desire to have a better life, while simultaneously insuring the opposite.
It is just so sad.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the owner of this blog, and why put so much effort into hating? Anonymous, I'm sorry I don't agree with your logic either. Either none of you have seen the products lately or don't want to take of the shades you wear while looking.
Many of the products in the ribbons catalogue are very comparable or better for price as they are anywhere else.
Unfortunetly for you guys, Amway does have some great products, and is a legitimate business model.
I can only assume neither of you have ever started a business, Amway or otherwise? Am I correct?
This is a good opportunity for regular people to start something that can change there lives. Is it hard work? Yes. Do they have to sell? Yes. But tell me one business where you don't?
Also even when not in business people sell everyday. Negotiating with a 2 year old over dinner. Selling.
Negotiating what movie you want to see with friends. Selling.
It happens in all areas of our lives.
Imagine if the owner of this blog put his efforts towards something other than hate, be it anything, I bet you'd accomplish a lot.

quixtarisacult said...

anonymous...

You say they have a legitimate business model. Have you ever stopped to consider that if this was your business the business model would be yours--not theirs! Seems like you want to make me out to be some kind of rabid hater. Not really the case. If you want to squander your time, money and energies on a scheme, go at it. At least you've been forewarned.

So many have dreamed of success in the Amway swindle. Where have all the enthusiastic faces that appeared on the Dateline episode? Oh, they all probably fed some money to the Amway Cult Initiators as well as pouring money into the 'Tool Scam', but most probably have reentered reality and flushed themselves out.

People who discover they've been taken by Amway usually just go away quietly. Would you brag that you were one of the hundreds of thousands of people that got taken in the Amway 'financial holocaust?'

Isaac said...

How is being an IBO a cult? First of all, there is a 90 day money back guarantee, so what do you have to lose? Second, your buying items you need (such as face wash, shampoo, body wash, make-up, vitamins, etc.) and getting paid for it. Would you rather get paid for buying those items, or not get paid and support Walmart? Next, you say this is a "swindle" and a "scam". Well why don't you explain that a little bit, because this business is not a "get rich quick" business. There is extrememly high potential for making money in Amway, you just have to get educated, take advice, and put forth some effort (which im assuming you didn't do). Lastly, you were apart of Quixtar, which technically is the same thing, but Amway has newer and better products now. IBO's get them for wholesale price, and so do our customers. Amway does not want people like you, quixtarisacult. They want people that are positive, excited, educated, determined, and willing to take advice.

quixtarisacult said...

Dear Isaac...

Obviously you have joined the cult. Why is Amway/Quixtar like joining a cult? Just read any of my blogs and you will soon discover your answer. I notice that you seem to repeat much of the Amway "tape-speak" that is paraded out for new Ambots.

Maybe you haven't devoted much of your time or money to your new association, so you can probably get out before losing too much of your own time, money and self respect.

Regarding, how do you get paid for buying your own inventory? How do you save money by buying badly overpriced Amway goods when their discounted price to you is generally much higher than nearly all brick and mortar stores retail?

You repeat that Amway is not a get rich quick business. What then is their 5 year plan all about?

Oh yes, Amway wants people to be excited and positive for their scheme. It works for Amway, but will it really work for you.

Want to find out about your wonderful Amway upline? Read "Married to an Ambot." Are you married? If yes, I'm sorry to hear about what your wife most likely will be going through.

Amway Cult Intervention works if you work it.

Anonymous said...

God please save quixtariscult. he is your kid, though a little stupid. ignorant, have not done anything specific in life, scared of doing hard work, keeps insulting others hard work, he is still your kid.

quixtarisacult said...

anonymous...

Thanks for your interest in my soul. Very funny.

Unknown said...

I actually enjoy peoples negativity, it's useful to see both sides. Let's see you build an 11 billion dollar business from the ground up. If your so proud of your accomplishments please list them for us to see. Please post a full picture of yourself, and a location to meet you. Since your so successful show yourself behind the keyboard.

Unknown said...

Haha love it

quixtarisacult said...

Frank, it is too bad that the 11 Billion dollars represent money extracted from people like you. Amway's success represents the lack of success by people who believe the scheme, pay into the system, and after disillusionment, fall to the wayside. It isn't just Amway, but the hundreds of other Amway clones who churn through thousands of believers, leaving them empty handed only to blame themselves. You are free to consider the truths of MLM failure as simply "negativity" until you eventually realize how the supposedly "tried and true" system really operates to defraud those foolish enough to believe their systems. Go ahead and buy the tools, the kingpins will profit from it and you will keep paying to play their game.

ldb said...

I am curious how a multi-level marketing business like Amway would be set up so that you wouldn't consider it a scam. Do you expect that there should be a guarantee to on-signing IBOs that they will be successful? Do you expect the company to skimp on quality supplements and skin care in order to bring prices in line with the likes of Centrum and Mabeline? Would you expect successful IBOs to be able to effectively promote products they are not themselves using?

If you were to examine the collection of IBOs who left the business empty handed, you may very well find that they either left within the first few years because they were not getting quick results, or they had not devoted the requisite time/effort to sharing the business with others.
Successful and wealthy business men and women have taken risks to get where they are at, digging in without the guarantee of success. They have often had to invest a great deal of money and time. A well-constructed multilevel marketing company allows you the possibility of growing a large, wealthy business without having to go into debt or quit your day job. Do you expect in order to be legitimate, they must also guarantee results?

Anonymous said...

Quixtarisacult, you are only saying these things because you yourself were, and most likely still are, not successful. This is not the case for everyone. Yes many people fail but many also succeed. Its just like any job really. This buisness model puts a lot of responsibility on ones shoulders and not everyone in this world is ment to handle that. The problem is when people rush into something that they know they can't handle and then blame the world for their failures. This is exactly what you are doing here. You are trying to crush anyone who has anything to do with amway.
I have news for you pal, me an and my spouse are IBOs and we couldn't be happier. This buisness has not only gotten us in a better financial state but has helped us better ourselves and eachother.
Just remember that for whatever reason this didn't work for you, that gives you no right to crush everyone else.

quixtarisacult said...

It generally doesn't work for anyone. They are told to fake it until they make it, and I suspect that some who post here are merely faking success. People really believe they can make it in Amway, but enthusiasm fades and most quit. I have never been a Amway IBO, and have no intention on becoming one. I lived with one, and witnessed the insanity of this cult.

Unknown said...

So if a guy barely makes the practice squad should he give up on his dream and tell everyone the NFL sucks and it's not FAIR?