tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post7947387652967629152..comments2023-11-30T01:09:06.679-05:00Comments on Amway Cult Intervention: Team Nutrilite Athletes Lay Three Big Eggs in China's Birds Nest Olympic Stadium: Hypocrisy of Amway Athletic Endorsements!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-24699771898803917632018-12-19T07:02:48.070-05:002018-12-19T07:02:48.070-05:00They maybe know something wrong but doest make the...They maybe know something wrong but doest make the products bad and prove that you are smart. Asshole dont get above urself onlone youre nothingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387889837177795103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-63535489114688493042009-08-30T12:20:03.392-04:002009-08-30T12:20:03.392-04:00Many of the Quixtar/Amway IBOs don't realize t...Many of the Quixtar/Amway IBOs don't realize that the business is designed to allow only a few people to succeed. Quixtar/Amway can't afford to make everyone succeed because they will go broke. When it comes down to it, Quixtar/Amway is still a business. This is how a business operates: money comes first, then everything else follows. Successful businesses are great at manipulating people, and Quixtar/Amway and their diamonds are great at that. It's sad when you think about it because a lot of these IBOs are great people.<br /><br />Most IBOs think that they have a lot of knowledge about Quixtar/Amway products but they only have half of the formula. For example: most, if not all of them don't realize that Double X contain synthetic vitamins and chemicals. They think it is "all natural." Another one is XS energy drink. It is loaded with synthetic vitamins, chemicals, and a neurotoxin called sucralose (an artificial sweetener). The IBOs who drink XS are basically making themselves dumber. Well, I guess Quixtar/Amway is smarter than I thought. Make their IBOs dumber so they are easier to be manipulated.Oakdizzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-78526016454445923792009-07-24T01:02:10.967-04:002009-07-24T01:02:10.967-04:00WOW these amway nuts never cease to amaze me! Qui...WOW these amway nuts never cease to amaze me! Quixtarisacult I have some info. for you. A couple months ago I started a job at a major chain fitness center as a manager. I came into the job thinking I would offer work out advice and run the club daily, however the very first day I began to realize this was nothing more then a typical generate, track, follow and create leads type of job where you constantly call people over and over again till they come in for a tour. I was amazed how the women training me would ignore objections and keep persisting to the point of aqwardness with the customer. I remember thinking to myself she would be perfect for Amway/QT. I decide not to continue the job but tell her how amazed I was that she was always so positive. It was then she revealed she had done Nutrilite for years and it is still her main passion away from work. It seemed to all come together and I got out of there, but I couldn't help but wonder if scams like QT and Nutrilite are going to start leaking into legitimate companies and try to expand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-52932484191280756562009-03-01T10:09:00.000-05:002009-03-01T10:09:00.000-05:00Your last comment has the same IP address showing ...Your last comment has the same IP address showing at your path as Grand Rapids. <BR/><BR/>I've been patient, allowing you to express yourself in the way you have chosen. Most likely you are already an Amway distributor or most likely an employee knowing where you live. Go ahead and cheat a neighbor then. The only thing I can therefore do is warn them about you method of operandi which is what I do anyway. <BR/><BR/>I suppose I've driven you to extreme measures, madness indeed, causing you to claim you are joining Amway because of my <I>negativity and closed mindedness</I>, all a sign that your success is all but guaranteed?<BR/><BR/>Just go for it, do it! And oh, by the way, why not go troll some of the other pages critical of Scamway?quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-57769516516294034302009-03-01T02:10:00.000-05:002009-03-01T02:10:00.000-05:00Wow. you think you are soooo cool because you trac...Wow. you think you are soooo cool because you tracked me down (or so you think)I don't live anywhere close to Grand Rapids, BTW. Find another hobby besides stalking. don't quit your day job....heh, oh wait, thats what you'll be doing for the rest of your life.<BR/>Also, due to our recent discussions about Amway, I have been inspired to join up, so thanks! You gave me exactly what I needed. Your negativity and close-mindedness are truly inspiring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-67396633232881322502009-02-23T20:01:00.000-05:002009-02-23T20:01:00.000-05:00Anonymous...Just for readers information, I culled...Anonymous...<BR/><BR/>Just for readers information, I culled this information about you:<BR/><BR/>Sbc Internet Services<BR/>IP Number 69.221.232.177<BR/>Grand Rapids, Michigan, United States.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm? Very suspicious. You repeat common <I>'tape speak'</I> logic and live near Amway headquarters. Go ahead and cheat a neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. <BR/><BR/>About people seeing money in Amway. Well, it depends on which people you are now doesn't it? The tool scammers see their downline's money. Oh, the DeVos Van Andel heirs see the money their money extracting monopoly brings in. Hmmm? The buyers, all the independent suckers, well, they generally see their money going bye bye.quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-22298721967498659482009-02-23T17:39:00.000-05:002009-02-23T17:39:00.000-05:00You seeth with anger in your writing like Amway ki...You seeth with anger in your writing like Amway killed your favorite pet.<BR/>so answer these questions...<BR/>#1 why are there more people than ever "doing Amway" (millions all over the world)<BR/>#2 why do you think people keep "doing Amway"? they actually see money? can it be?<BR/>#3 the government has an obligation to shut down businesses that are illegal and do not produce financial benefit. hence the FTC and BBB reference. they don't miss much.<BR/>#4 the "bad guys at the top" have given so much money away to help people its unbelievable. <BR/>#5 what kind of job do you have, Mr. Business degree? what is your plan to not work until you're dead? scam or not, Amway is actually helping some people, and I am shocked that someone as intellectually gifted as you hasn't figured that out yet. Hope in any form is powerful. I'll bet you are doing your best to yell from the rooftop that Amway is a scam, regardless of factual proof to the contrary, because you are angry about something, or you have lost hope yourself in anything better. I'll bet you tried it and dropped out.<BR/>and for the record, I'm not in Amway. I have a friend who is, and I like him a lot better now than I did before he joined "the cult."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-11881128808785210102009-02-23T07:17:00.000-05:002009-02-23T07:17:00.000-05:00anonymous...You seem to repeat and believe the Amw...anonymous...<BR/><BR/>You seem to repeat and believe the Amway myth that you have to actually be involved to understand how it works; that all others therefore cannot understand and therefore are not qualified to critique it. How crazy is that? You don't have to swallow poison to know that it can kill you; you know what it has done for others isn't this logic the same with Amway? Amway, too will do for you what it has for so many others. <BR/><BR/>Amway challenges people to strive in their scheme and make those who do follow their reality inverting scheme believe they are wise while all others are merely <I>dream stealers.</I> All the talk about 'do the work and enjoy the success when it comes' is a load of steaming crap. <BR/><BR/>The problem with Amway is that they expect you to keep watering their <I>'dead seed'</I> which never really materializes into the magical beanstalk up to kingpin treasure. The kingpin giants wouldn't like anyone moving in on their golden goose now would he? <BR/><BR/>The <I>prosperity dream</I> that Amway prostelizers sell only serves to enrich the Devos/Van Andel clans, and the mega media sellers of tools, all while everyone else become buyers of the the monopoly priced products, and also buyrers ofthe monopoly priced tools (which sell for pennies on the dollar on eBay). <BR/><BR/>I take it you believe in the Amway myths then? You seem to be well versed in the <I>tapespeak</I> jargon which serves to enslave those people wanting so desperately to believe it as if it had been handed down off the mount with Moses.<BR/><BR/>You claim I want to 'peg real winners - people who fail and keep trying' as being paid members of a cult? Actually, these folks are the unpaid members of a cult who 'pay to play' in Amway 'closed market swindle' where continually striving to succeed works out very well for the initiators of this pernicious cult where YOU BELIEVE--THEY PROSPER!quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-34139281132960419362009-02-23T00:33:00.000-05:002009-02-23T00:33:00.000-05:00Hire John Tesh? LOL I laughed at that too. Who IS ...Hire John Tesh? LOL I laughed at that too. Who IS that dude? Anyways, you are spitting out some weird numbers that makes me think you were in this "scam," as you call it. You have to give some credit to the people with the testicular fortitude to try owning their own business (Mary Kay/Herbalife/Jockey/Avon/etc...) because not everyone can pull it off. Not everyone is brave enough or strong enough to buck the norm. I guess it's not really a scam if you succeed by helping people and it's legal, right? Read a little closer on the quality of Nutrilite from a credible source. The FTC and the BBB have a few things to say about the Devos and Van Andel families' biz as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-87957656523412408102009-02-22T18:27:00.000-05:002009-02-22T18:27:00.000-05:00anonymous...Thanks for commenting. Actually, Nutri...anonymous...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for commenting. Actually, Nutrilite vitamins were being sold prior to Amway's beginning in 1959 all part of a early multi-marketing scheme which DeVos and Van Andel basically co-opted for their early soap business. <BR/><BR/>How is Nutrilite a scam? The ingredients, raw materials occuring in abundance, generally cost very little. Most likely the processing and the packaging itself being a larger percentage of manufacturing expense. They are extremely monopoly priced, and nearly every Amway distributor is generally expected to buy and consume them. Now, for a married couple, this generally probably accounts for half the 100 pv that they are encouraged to buy each month. Over the years, Nutrilite vitamins has probably done more to boost Van Andel and DeVos into two of the wealthiest men around. Of course, you can add in the soap and so forth, but probably the most universally bought product by prosperity dreams is the <I>'soups'</I> that prevent scurvy.<BR/><BR/>I've said it before, many times athletes endorse products that they may actually not even take. Nutrilite vitamins as far as I can determined aren't considered sports vitamins at least in the sport in which I am most familiar with. One of the most vitamin/supplement intensive sports is the World of body building, and general vitamin supplements like nutrilite aren't generally considered top shelf. Of course, all the distributors believe in them, paying a premium price to pay to play in the Amway closed market swindle. <BR/><BR/>You do make a good point. Sports endorsements is a business. How quickly Amway moves on when their former fastest man is just an also ran. It is all part of the hypocricy of company endorsements, which as Amway just foud out during the Summer Olympics, may not go the way they planned. It is nothing against the athletes themselves. Product endorsements can be bought. Look, Amway actually saved enough money dumping the fastest man to hire <I>John Tesh?</I> Go figure? Real winner there!quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-14669641241805134162009-02-22T17:02:00.000-05:002009-02-22T17:02:00.000-05:00actually I haven't posted before. I am not trashin...actually I haven't posted before. I am not trashing you about your biz degree, congrats. That's something to be proud of. What I don't understand is that you trash Amway and Nutrilite, two companies that have changed many lives for the better (and I can quantify that factually). Do I agree with all endorsement practices of those two companies? No. But claiming Nutrilite and Amway is a scam in general is sad - I speak of the uneducation there, because unless you were an active part of this "scam" in the past, you don't know any better. You always fear what you do not understand.<BR/>The athletes have nothing to do with the company other than the endorsement deal - it is a business arrangement - and if your athlete doesn't produce, you find a better one, right? That's normal business practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-39156573976263199102009-02-21T10:00:00.000-05:002009-02-21T10:00:00.000-05:00I believe you've commented before. Your poor capi...I believe you've commented before. Your poor capitalization gives you away. Actually, I have nothing against the Athletes, just the hypocrisy of athletic sport endorsements. What do you make of Amway's parting ways with the former World's fastest man? I suppose the vitamins stopped working for him? <BR/><BR/>Why should I be bitter about these athletes under performing? Uneducated? I suppose I must send my business degree back to the University where I got it then? <BR/>Maybe you need to take some of your NutriScam vitamins to improve your cognitive disorder? <BR/><BR/>How does a golfer blow his knee out anyway? Maybe walking too fast between holes? Maybe he stepped in a gopher hole or something? <BR/><BR/>Actually I like Tiger Woods, and no, he doesn't promote Nutrilite vitamins, but for enough money, he might? Manage to squeeze some cash out of the scammers?quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017027141007412501.post-90451270131807247312009-02-21T00:41:00.000-05:002009-02-21T00:41:00.000-05:00its too bad you peg real winners - people who fail...its too bad you peg real winners - people who fail and keep trying - as being paid members of a cult. Olympians fail, just like normal people, regardless of who supports them. You aren't trashing Tiger Woods on behalf of Nike because he blew his knee out, are you? You sound bitter and uneducated, and that is unfortunate. You gave up on yourself long ago, and thats why you resort to trashing professional athletes who take vitamins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com